Wednesday, November 29, 2006

South Korea to kill cats and dogs

Sigh. Not again.

When they started killing dogs and cats in China during SARS, I was quite convinced that in Singapore, we would behave in a more rational manner and would not do something like that. Obviously I was wrong. When there is panic and hysteria, people just tend to over-react. Of course it is important to take the right measures to protect health - and no one argues with that. However, when over-reaction and hysteria take over, it's not just worrying for the animals - but for people too. It brings out the absolute worst in people.

South Korea to kill animals

South Korea to kill animals in bird flu scare

Note that all the medical experts say they see no reason to kill the dogs and cats. Let's hope that bird flu doesn't spread and this is quickly contained. And let's hope we all keep our heads if the worst happens and it does spread.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don't these people just kill themselves, save all the trouble of hunting down the poor animals. They can also stop worrying of getting anymore diseases..
If such things do happen in Spore again, I say we do not just let it pass again. I am not promoting unrest but at least a demonstration of some sorts to voice our rights and concerns.

29/11/06 12:40 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Anonymous I am quite heartened that so many more people seem to be speaking up for the animals. As you said, it's not about a demonstration or unrest but about speaking up logically and politely for what is right.

29/11/06 1:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those who are responsible for ordering the total destruction of cats and dogs will not only die hideously but bring curses to themselves, family members and the whole of Korea.

I am glad I pulled all my investments out of Korea. They are demonic and totally evil. Boycott Korean products.

If they continue to kill the healthy and innocent cats and dogs,
then they are suffering from insanity.

29/11/06 2:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Singapore was close to being insane at certain places...someone influential asked me if I was over reacting by evacuating community cats during SARS and I said I wasn't the one who was overreacting, the people who ordered them culled were the ones who lost their heads.

29/11/06 3:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even if Korea killed all the small animals like cats, dogs, rabbits, hamsters etc. chicken will still be there unless they decide to stop eating chickens which you knowthey can't live without it.

ai-yo cat

29/11/06 3:03 PM  
Blogger koratmao said...

Reminded me of early England's Black Death. Innocent cats are 'massacred' when the culprits are rodents. Took a huge fire in the end to solve the mystery....are cats really possible carriers? Don't forget rodents are multplying at an alarming speed that's worrying scientists as well, I'm sure strays and Korean Cats still feed on them; now with rodents' natural predators gone, we the killers might come to live with DDT?...apocalypse.....

29/11/06 3:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its normal procedures and trust me if SARS (TOUCH WOOD x 10) there will be culling of cats and stray dogs in Singapore too.

It is just a what they say necessary evil. The medical staff dont do it because they dont like animals or they are evil. So dont curse them nor curse the country.

Put yourself in their shoes. Facing an potential plague that can spill over to humans. The best part? It is so viral that it spreads easily. What do you do? You destroy all possible vectors (term for carriers) Rather the death of all these animals than the death of thousands of humans.

And if you start calling for animal rights. Please do note that not too long ago, we did the same thing to humans to stop leprosy (lock them up on islands) Ebola, lock them up in huts and if they dont emerge after 1 week, burn the hut plus most likey dead victim to prevent spread of disease. In Singapore, during Sars, nurses got evicted, bus drivers refuse to stop outside Tan Tock Seng etc.

It is the natural cycle of things
And trust me we will do it again if needed. Better the sacrifice of a few for the good of all. For your info, the person who ordered the total culling of chickens in HK and stopped the birdflu is incidentally now the HEAD of WHO

For now, just pray that bird flu or Sars dont surface here again.

29/11/06 4:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It their fault for not taking any extra precaution and measurement rather than putting the blame to the innocent animals.I hope North Korea will bomb nuclear on them soon.

29/11/06 6:39 PM  
Anonymous Aminah Bee said...

The official ordering the culling of cats and dogs in South Korea to stop the spread of bird flu is what I called a birdbrain and a cuckoo looney. The bird flu virus probably gone to his head, so he gone bonkers!
Cuckoo! Cuckoo!

29/11/06 8:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Standard retarded excuses like killing all animals as a noble way of getting rid of vectors to save humankind. Even Hitler used that sort of thinking for destroying gypsies, Jews, gays and even created his own form of religion.

How do you like if they knock down your door and start killing your healthy beloved pets? We need to start looking for hiding places. Pity the animal shelters here if that should happen.

So korea instead of making farming
safe, they head the wrong direction by butchering people's pets.

29/11/06 9:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really don't care about who the head of WHO is, there are people who achieved socalled greatness on earth but their vanity and pride have cause the deaths of millions of healthy animals.

29/11/06 10:32 PM  
Anonymous EJ said...

All these cullings are short term solution.Hope they are working on long term solution.

29/11/06 10:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well I would say the same to those who whine about culling. When you see your loved ones dying of a plague in the hospital..... when that happens tell me if you are still singing the same song about no culling.

If there is a need to stop a plague at its tracks by culling, then it has to be done.

29/11/06 10:50 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

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29/11/06 11:48 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

I like how people justify anything by saying, imagine what would happen to your loved ones?

What about the fact that there's no medical evidence to suggest that this is necessary? In fact, the medical evidence seems to suggest the contrary.

And again, if this is bird flu - why are they killing cats? As someone pointed out, why not stop eating chickens? If we did that, there would be no chicken farms with overcrowding. Disease would not spread as easily. Speaking of vectors of transmission, this would certainly help to cut the risk dramatically since people have caught it almost entirely in relation to poultry farming.

It disturbs me tremendously that someone pointed out that because of leprosy, people used to be locked up, or suggested BURINING people. Let's just go back to the dark ages, because we know how well that ended up curing these diseases.

Plus it's okay now to shun medical personnel because of SARS? Let me ask a very simple question - how did that over-reaction help to stop the spread of SARS?

As Koratmao pointed out, the Black Death spread quickly because of rats and it was shown that cats were instrumental in helping to stop the Black Plague because they were killing the rats. In killing the cats (because of fear), they actually hastened the spread.

Is this what we have come to? That it's okay to do anything just as long as it is to save ourselves?

For those people who talk about loved ones dying, let me pose this question to you - would you say the same if your loved ones were the ones being dragged off to be killed as was suggested? Because as the last person posted, if we justify the deaths of a few just IN CASE it can help save the many, then that's the logical conclusion.

29/11/06 11:55 PM  
Anonymous EJ said...

Right, show medical evidence that cats & dogs are spreading the virus and disease before blind mass slaughtering them.
These cats and dogs cannot speak out or protest when 'death sentence' are being handed down on them. We, humans, got a mouth, brain and heart to speak out on their behalf.
Either you do this or ignored the plight of these unnecessary mass culling.
Anonymous(of post 10.50pm), have you have a pet dog or cat whom you loves alot and bonded with greatly.One day, you discovered it will be put to death, how would you feel?

30/11/06 12:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cats been proven not the cause of SARS last round and and yet I get to read people with holocaustic mentality suggesting '
ending plague at its tracks by culling cats...' is like singing some lyrics meant for simple minded people who are out of control seeking revenge on poor animals.

ai-yo cat

30/11/06 12:19 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

BTW, whomever mentioned Dr Margaret Chan of the WHO, her handling of the SARS crisis was one of the things that people felt actually counted against her. The HK Legislative Council censured her on this.

30/11/06 12:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Better to whine about culling than blame human deaths on all animals.
Blame it on undiscovered science,
toxicity from atmospheric elements like lousy drinking water, over processed foods and other catastrophies.

30/11/06 6:16 AM  
Blogger budak said...

In the SARS case, few authorities bothered to point out that the disease was thought to be linked in China to civet cats, which are not at all closely related to cats or dogs at all – totally different families. Stupidity and wilful ignorance reigns....

More idiocy here:

Might as well chop down all the trees since they harbour the birds!!

30/11/06 11:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One anonymous wrote "Better the sacrifice of a few for the good of all."

Have you counted how many animals have been killed (many cruelly done so such as being buried alive!) because of bird flu, sars, etc? It is countless.
How many human have died?
What is the ratio?
Loved ones? Do animals NOT have loved ones?
We human just selfishly want our cake and eat it - Kill all the animals for all I care, as long as I have my KFC!

30/11/06 2:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has anyone realized that the whole bird flu hysteria arose out of a single hypothetical what if? I don't pretend to know much about medical science but from what I understand, the fear is that the disease might mutate to a form that is highly transmissible among humans. Right it hasn't happened. Besides, there is no evidence that the disease can spread in any other way than from close contact with poultry/infected birds. Also, note how the experts in the article all said that killing cats and dogs is an extreme and unecessary measure.

Please tell me, what shall we do if a comet crashes into the earth tomorrow? What if global warming sinks the island of Singapore into the sea? What if North Korea decides to nuke us all? I'm not going to lose sleep over all the what ifs. We can do the logical and appropriate thing to counter a possible threat but hysteria and paranoia cannot possibly achieve anything good.

30/11/06 3:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should all boycott Korean products. I, for one, do not use any Korean product or watch any Korean show, no matter how popular they are........ever since I know that they eat dogs.

30/11/06 3:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Besides, civet cats aren't even cats. They are members of the mongoose family just like our local palm civets. The whole SARS fiasco was a sham and a disgrace. Shame on the officials who thought of scapegoating cats. I don't care if you are the president of the united states or the queen of england, but if you are cruel to animals I have no respect for you.

30/11/06 3:16 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Anonymous I agree - it's hysteria that is the most worrying.

30/11/06 4:04 PM  
Blogger koratmao said...

Wonder if Greenpeace will interfere with Korea's intention. If not, at least Nat Geo should video the whole 'holocaust' if God forbid it should ever happen.
Really, so much talk, what can we really do? Who is Cat's most high authority on earth?

30/11/06 5:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

slightly off topic, which reminds me of my own mother shrieking/ telling me off for playing with a community cat. "Cats have all the diseases, SARS carriers..."

my retort: "actually they should fear us more as we are walking viruses too, mind. cold, gastric flu, some people go toilet never wash hands..."

but then my mum is an anti-cat person, so she justified her case by citing SARS.

1/12/06 1:44 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Anonymous you're absolutely right - if you look at SARS, people were the ones who transmitted the disease to other people.

1/12/06 3:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have never fear cats as carriers of SARs, they live in open spaces and away from crowded human facilities like MRT trains, lifts, hotels and buses so humans are dangerous to me at that time.

The only specie safe to be with you will be your animals.

1/12/06 7:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes indeed if we human beings have to fear about transmittable diseases, it is from our fellow human beings. Have you seen our fellow human beings blow their noses and then conveniently rub the discharge onto railings. Who will be the lucky people holding onto this stained railings?
Spitting is still a rampant pleasure here with some developing the skill of Phui-ing some distance in front of their pacing so that the spit doesn't hit their clothes!
Like many other problems, we love to take the blaming stance.
Why can't the governments just tell the people that it is our craving for meat and the farmers craving for profits that create hell-hole intensive farmings of animals that is really the root of sars and bird flu! But all these are so interwoven into our money-churning wonders of modern economies, that no vote-craving is going to tell the people the truth. So they divert the attention to killing the dumb animals instead.

1/12/06 11:42 AM  

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