Saturday, December 16, 2006

ST (16-12-06)

AVA's reply :-

Form warns against cruelty to animals


Anonymous Anonymous said...

If there is indeed a signed form that borrowers do not ill-treat trapped cats, then the borrowers are clearly liable for some sort of penalty if it could be proven that cruelty took place.
If a photo (showing cruelty) is taken with borrower's house number clearly visible, what will the ava do? Investigate over a such a long period of time that no one remembers the act of cruelty.

16/12/06 5:08 PM  
Anonymous ej said...

Agreed Anonymous. I still felt that the trap and cull procedures provide inadequate protection to trapped strays from being tortured.Returning a trapped cat in one piece does not warrant that no cruelty had not taken place.

16/12/06 8:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the point of a form if the rules are not enforced?
And why is AVA still avoiding the issue that these are community cats and that AVA can do better with sterilizing them than to waste taxpayers' money killing 13,000 cats year after year after year.
AVA has not answered to calls for educating complainants with information on humane methods of repelling cats from one's property and not just merely provide traps as the only default solution.
It is another of AVA's exasperating template reply.

16/12/06 11:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Irritating to keep hearing the free loan of death trap AVA is offering to public and the talk down style of telling cat owners to sterilise and warning cat people to be considerate by preventing cats from wondering into neighbours' property.

Welfare groups have been providing free loan of humane traps for sterilisation. What AVA
needs to do is to provide longer term term solution to stray cats population through intensive sterilisation.

They keep repeating themselves but offer no solution.

17/12/06 12:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AVA believes by providing free traps to cull cats as good, social responsibilty then they are burying the future of Singapore by teaching the younger generation that destruction, intolerance and cold heartedness are promoted at governmental levels.

I say template replies are given by people with no intention to improve, totally inefficient.

17/12/06 12:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you see how live frogs have their legs hacked off and their dying torso in extreme pain and bloody mess, such an organisation should not be allowed to manage food consumption and animal welfare, it's like devil telling God not to be kind. Animal welfare will never succeed, culling will be in the agenda, it's a curse.
Best to breakaway.

17/12/06 12:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my neighbour once had a trap from AVA in their yard for more than a month. Over weekends and public holidays. I watched like a hawk, ready my camera. Luckily, no cats went into their yard over that period. The 1st week, I had to trap the community cats, 3 of them to keep them safe. How is it that they have the trap for so long???AVA said cat-owners should ensure their cats don't cause nuisance, what about one's neighbours noisy, stomping , screaming children? playing badminton at pedestrian walkway? Football, tennis balls flying into my garden? Litter from upstairs? Can i trap these people to be dealt with?

17/12/06 6:34 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Anonymous - any idea what problem your neighbours have with the cats? You can call up the AVA and ask why the trap was there for such a long time though they can extend the period.

17/12/06 7:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, you can use glue to trap nuisance children, they are products of unruly, selfish humans who show no regard for other living beings.

17/12/06 8:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mum told me that people don't get fines even if they loan traps for more
than two weeks. AVA is simply too relaxed! People always talk about making this world a better place. How can this world become a better place if they continue to kill these innocent beings?


18/12/06 9:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mum told me that people don't get fines even if they loan traps for more
than two weeks. AVA is simply too relaxed! People always talk about making this world a better place. How can this world become a better place if they continue to kill these innocent beings?


18/12/06 9:07 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Unfortunately, they are allowed to extend - as long as they tell the AVA.

18/12/06 10:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear -nyo-
Do make your voice heard. It is time for a paradigm shift in the way AVA has been handling animal issues. Totally inefficent and still die-hard defensive in its replies. One who has read enough of AVA's replies can even reply for AVA :)
It is time for a separate animal welfare dept.

18/12/06 10:35 AM  
Anonymous Marilyn said...

With this kind of reply, AVA might as well not reply.

18/12/06 11:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing new. In Singapore the solution to every animal nuisance problem is to cull.

18/12/06 1:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should have a separate ministry to manage humane animal welfare. AVA has failed right from the start, the dead animals they have culled will haunt the ministry.

Culling must go on or else they have no jobs.

18/12/06 2:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One AVA guy told me to leave some strays behind so their guys have a job to do, like catching the dogs for culling at AVA Pasir Panjang.

18/12/06 2:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


18/12/06 6:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AVA is a killing ministry well supported by public funding. Animal welfare groups are poorest of the poor but someday, there shall be justice for the animals and caregivers.

18/12/06 9:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My cat just typed this while I was away to make a cup of coffee. She is madly against culling.

18/12/06 10:19 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

To be fair there are some very good animal welfare officers in AVA. I do agree though that it would be better if the two departments were delinked and perhaps the welfare department could keep an eye on the control department.

19/12/06 12:45 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Hi Babe Princess, while I appreciate you're trying to help find volunteers, your blog is a bit misleading. It seems as if CWS has a blog (which it does not - this is MY personal blog). Please do change the information. Also the photos are taken by a volunteer and I would need their permission to let you use them as we only have permission to use it on our website.

19/12/06 1:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some funds should be given to animal welfare groups to carry out AVA work, like genuine 'humane' welfare stuff. For AVA, culling is an act of mercy to reduce suffering, that's what they do.

I say cut out the crap.

19/12/06 1:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From Chanel News Asia: 29 July 2005 1917 hrs
Stray, abandoned dogs get second chance with adoption campaign
By Margaret Perry, Channel NewsAsia

SINGAPORE : Some 3,600 stray and abandoned dogs are killed in Singapore every year, but animal lovers are hoping to give some of these dogs a second chance. Volunteers from SOS Animals collected three-month-old Rosie from Jurong Island earlier this week. The stray puppy is the star of a Death Row Adoption campaign being held this weekend. She is being put up for adoption with 20 other stray cats and dogs. Said Sandy Lim, founder of SOS Animals, “We are removing the dogs from Jurong Island because many of them are being starved to death, abused, or some of them died in very difficult circumstances — they ate food laced with poison.”

The AVA says it is not aware of any dog poisoning cases. But it does round up some 3,600 stray dogs a year. Most are put to sleep at the AVA’s Centre for Animal Welfare and Control.

Said K Madhavan, head of the centre, “They would harass people, harass cyclists and there would be incidents of biting and it’s also to save them from misery.”

19/12/06 7:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said... - Voices (August 23, 2005);Rethink killing of stray dogs, Try out more humane ways..
Dr Tan Chek Wee

A Channel NewsAsia report on July 29 was about how 3,600 stray dogs are rounded-up each year and most are put to sleep at the AVA’s Centre for Animal Welfare & Control. The centre’s head, Mr K Madhavan, said: “They would harass people, harass cyclists & there would be incidents of biting and it’s also to save them from misery.”

It is ironic the word “save” was used. The lives of stray dogs are miserable because they are pushed into a corner by rapid urbanisation; and our increasing intolerance and lack of socialisation with canines.

Stray dogs are generally shy and shun people. However, when driven by intense hunger, they may seek out crowded areas where food is available. This can lead to complaints.

Some people make threatening gestures or abuse dogs; some dogs may thus be provoked to attack in self-defence or fear. Some cyclists who meet stray dogs overreact. Some women may shriek; high-pitched sounds are highly excitatory to dogs. People who panic and start running may be chased by dogs - a predator’s instinct.

I doubt AVA has the manpower to investigate each complaint thoroughly. So it is often easier to provide immediate assurance by saying the stray dogs will be “removed” (note the euphemistic avoidance of the word “kill”). Can AVA give details of incidents of harassment and biting - the number of cases a year, whether these were licensed dogs or street dogs; and whether the dogs were provoked?

Has AVA discussed preventive strategies with animal welfare organisations such as the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, Action for Singapore Dogs and SOS Animals?

I am sure more humane and effective strategies can be formulated to reduce the problems presented by stray dogs. I know of several women who care for such strays - rightly called community dogs as they are being cared for - by getting them sterilised, fed and taken to the vet when sick.

Such community dogs no longer need to scavenge for food, unwanted puppies are avoided and the population will reduce by natural attrition.

To mandate the killing of all stray dogs is a waste of public funds and manpower when more humane methods can be applied.

End mass killing of stray dogs; Better option is to allow keeping of larger pets in HDB flats

TODAY, Friday August 26, 2005

Letter from Deirdre Moss Executive Officer Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA)

I refer to the letter “Rethink killing of stray dogs” by Dr Tan Chek Wee (Aug 23).

The SPCA thanks Dr Tan for his care and concern for stray dogs and for advocating more humane treatment of them.

In May this year, the SPCA wrote to the Ministry of National Development, asking for “a more humane solution to overpopulation of unwanted animals”.

Specifically, the letter focused on a review of the Housing and Development Board’s ruling that cats and medium-sized dogs are not permitted.

As well as unwanted and abandoned pets, the SPCA takes in hundreds of stray cats and dogs (many of the dogs are medium-sized) every month.

A more humane option, for which we have been asking the authorities for some time, is to introduce preventive measures rather than to persist in the mass killing of strays which has proven over the decades to be ineffective.

Permitting cats and medium-sized dogs to be kept as pets in HDB flats would help reduce Singapore’s surplus animal population.

With mandatory micro-chipping, sterilisation and strict adherence to keeping one’s pet under control at all times, the SPCA feels that not only could more lives be saved, but we would see a reduction in the stray population.

Stray dogs, as Dr Tan mentions, are often cared for by animal lovers who arrange for their sterilisation and general care on a long-term basis. This approach also gives these homeless animals a chance to live out their lives with no additional impact on the stray animal population.

We urge all pet owners to have their animals sterilised and not to abandon them when they are no longer wanted. And instead of buying an imported dog, please consider adopting a local dog instead.

It is ironic that while thousands of stray dogs are destroyed every year, there are still thousands of dogs being imported, bred and sold here.

It is sad that our own Singapore dogs are denied the chance to have a home.

19/12/06 9:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

mass culling is similiar to serial killing. So why bother to have a holocaust section in AVA?

Engineers working at worksites saw guys emerging from a van with an AVA logo throwing meat for strays and soon after, many died.

19/12/06 9:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Killing is a demonic addiction, nothing merciful when poisonous gas is forcibly pumped into nostrils and mouths of puppies.
Cute puppies with a strong chance of being adopted are given no chance at AVA. AVA must work with animal welfare groups. And why are they not doing it?

They give you template answers.

19/12/06 10:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They need to fire the management and get someone new on the job. The 'mercy killing' mentality is decades old and needs to be scrapped. No-kill has been achieved in San Francisco city and Thompkins county in the US. I don't see why we cannot do it here if we claim to be such a progressive country. I read that in the US, animal control departments also do rehoming..maybe this varies from state to state I dont know..but I do know that AVA is NOT doing anything constructive to help the strays, heck we even have to pay an exhorbitant amount to redeem animals caught by them. Public education is fine, but does it do anything for animals already on the streets? NO. Does persistent killing reduced the number of strays or improve their quality of life? NO.

19/12/06 11:48 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Yes there needs to be a re-thinking of the way the department runs. There are good officers in the Animal Welfare division, but the problem is that what Animal Control and Animal Welfare do are completely different. Both are under AVA. Perhaps as has been suggested it is time to have it under a different department altogether.

19/12/06 2:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

See Agriculture,Fisheries and Conservation Department (AFCD) of HK
Pets Re-homing Scheme

Many animals need a second chance at being a favourable pet after they were abandoned or given up by their owners. AFCD encourages the public to adopt abandoned or surrendered dogs and cats through approved non-profit making voluntary animal welfare organizations. Abandoned and unclaimed pets with friendly temperament and healthy condition will be selected for re-homing. These animals include dogs, cats, rabbits, chinchillas and etc.

If the public wish to adopt any animals being held by AFCD, they should urgently contact one of the animal welfare organizations which participate in the procedures for rehoming animals from AFCD.

If the adopter wishes to adopt a specific individual animal currently kept by AFCD, such as a specific stray or other animal which he/she saw caught, then, he/she should urgently contact and alert [by telephone (Tel: 1823) and subsequently in writing] the respective AFCD Animal Management Centre [AMC] to save and keep this particular animal pending the processing of the adoption through the relevant animal welfare organizations.

19/12/06 5:53 PM  
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