Tuesday, March 27, 2007

Another lot of cats in cages

More cats in cages
Originally uploaded by dawnkua.

Thanks to the adoption volunteer for sending this in.

This is another case of cats in cages - fortunately these cats were taken out by a volunteer and the cats rehomed last year. The volunteer sponsored their boarding till they were adopted (and one or two of them is still in boarding I believe).

Sadly, we think the woman probably went and took in more cats afterwards. This lot of cats removed was not the first lot removed from her. The TC, AVA and ourselves have spoken with her. In fact, the original cats were sterilised and returned to her by Jolanda but then she just put them outside in a cage and went and got some more after Jolanda left. That was when another volunteer got these cats out.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Got a question. These cats found in cages, are they usually found outside the flat or inside the flat?

And what is the reasoning why they put the cats in the cage instead of allowing it to roam free?

28/3/07 12:21 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Tough one - it can be both actually.

28/3/07 12:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

perhaps it's their way of keeping the cats "safe" when, for whatever reason, they can't keep cats in their homes.

28/3/07 10:54 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Sometimes the cats in the home are in cages too. In this case, Jolanda went down and fenced the windows up so she could let them out. At that point this woman had some cats indoors and others outside.

28/3/07 11:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dawn, anyway to check on this mental woman cat hoarder? her hoarding habit and metal illness aside, caging cats inside a cage 24/7 x Godknowswhen is cruel. can something be done since we know that SHE exist? please, please let me know. i am particularly concerned here. i am also willing to lend what help i can to cats who are being imprisoned or dungeoned. please advise - anonymous 2:08-

29/3/07 8:49 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Hi Anonymous, the problem is this. Even if the cats are removed (and I hear that someone else before us also helped her remove some), she'll just go get more. There is nothing to stop her from picking up more cats. She's not very well educated and she got into trouble with her TC over other issues (her hoarding extends to other areas - not just animals) but she didn't care and the TC backed down as well because they realised there was nothing they can do.

Sadly as well, she isn't the only person hoarding.

Until hoarding is treated as a condition and the people suffering from it are treated as being ill, they will keep picking up animals. You might want to read the link on hoarding on the main blog page.

29/3/07 9:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi dawn, thanks for reply. yes, very sad. and most worrying. yes, i recognise this "hoarding" mental illness makes it all the more worse since such problems cannot be fully solved because the hoarder will go out to hoard new cats again. and again and again. very discouraging. i'm just wondering what can at least be done, AT THE VERY LEAST, for these cats who are being imprisoned? i don't know. any more experienced but equally concerned person out there that can help advise on this one? if the bare minimum can be done for the cats subjected to THIS form of cruelty, let me know i will do it. i feel absolutely sorry for and pity these cats being cruelly caged up and packed and dungeonised 24/7 x EVERY SINGLE DAY. i pity them more than those who have nothing to eat for days but are not caged-packed. actually and honestly, i really rather be proven totally wrong. because if i am wrong, then it will only mean that these unfortunate imprisoned cats are actually perfectly ok. in an earlier post here, another anonymous shared that he (or she)thinks my over-concern may be just too much. Later he replied that his thoughts were wrt being caged up as opposed to being euthanised.
which i didn't want to say it then but let me say so here - if i were a cat cruelly caged up with many other cats in a same tiny cage 24/7 with lots of food to eat, i would rather die. i will beg you humans to please, just euthanise me! or if you lock me up in a toilet with 8 other cats and give me food, please, please euthanise me and do so immediately, thank you. Back to this woman. since we know who she is, can we (i mean myself, since i am the one who is so badly stucked here) go and talk to her or help her? i am desperate enough for the cats that even if it means that the imprisoned cats can be let out once a month for just an hour, i will do it. and yes, there may be thousands of other sad mad hoarders around but as long as i know....this one, i will do this one. 0.11 is more than 0.1 please advise.

30/3/07 9:54 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Hi Anonymous you're more than welcome to try. Five different volunteers went down and spoke with her though and it's not changed what she is doing.

As I mentioned, hoarding is a psychiatric disorder - and if you tell her that for example keeping cats in a cage is cruel, the problem is that she doesn't think so.

In one case in the US in fact when a woman had been brought to court for all the dead animals they found in her freezer and other very sickly animals in her home, the woman picked up another cat on the way home from the hearing.

30/3/07 10:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hai, i know. so damned. both for the mental person and for the poor feline victims. wonder if she can let me "help" her with "her" (!!??!!) cats by letting them out to play once in a while....sigh.
am going to join CWS membership this weekend, then i'll contact you privately for this woman's contact. yup, i want to try - let me be the 6th person to try.

30/3/07 11:26 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Thanks! You don't have to be a member to help by the way :)

30/3/07 11:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this mad woman staying in a hdb? If so, get hdb to evict her, since hdb ruling is no cats in flats. If she has no place to stay, she won't have the place to hoard any more cats.

30/3/07 4:42 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

I think it is a very, very rare occurence for HDB to evict someone. There was another similar case - and they did not evict her.

30/3/07 4:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So,. does that mean that it's quite safe for us to continue keeping cats at home even if our neighbours complain?

30/3/07 4:57 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

I would say don't push it and try not to find out if you can! One woman we know though had 60 cats and she was warned many times. She did not however get evicted though she eventually chose to move out.

30/3/07 5:18 PM  

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