Wednesday, June 20, 2007

Cats in cages

Cats in cages
Originally uploaded by dawnkua.

Here are some of the cats when the door is opened. We were trying to see if there was some way to help in the interim because the man says he is jobless and is living out of a car, which is parked next to the van.

Knowing he is homeless, of course the situation would be more difficult. If this was a situation where he is in a bad financial situation, but needs some help of course we would see if we could help in some way.

The cats did look pretty well fed and some of them are allowed out, but the rest are fighting and territorial - he says they fight over his attention, though Rebecca and I were trying to tell him that they were probably fighting because they were unsterilised.

He also says he wants to take all the cats and travel the world with them. He is going to move them to an unspecified country (top secret because the ISD would love to know according to him) where it will be nice and rural and they will be allowed to roam to their hearts' content. There they will be allowed to breed, because sterilising is unnatural.

He said it was not ethical to sterilise a cat because it is natural to breed. We pointed out there are many things we do to children as well - like vaccinations - that aren't natural and done without their consent but for their welfare. He said that was different, his cats do get vaccinated but that it was for health reasons. We pointed out that sterilisation does make them healthier and they live longer but he wasn't convinced.

I told him that it would be very difficult to drive out of the country with a whole bunch of cats. There are all manner of export permits to get - and it doesn't mean that other countries will be any more tolerant of the cats.

Rebecca and I had a little breather to look around the area and to regroup. As Rebecca pointed out that this isn't the first person who says that they are planning to move away with their cats.

Rebecca and I pointed out that the poor sterilised female is getting mounted several times - that this wasn't fair to her, nor was it very ethical to allow that to continue happening when she clearly wasn't happy. He admitted the cats were bothering her but said that it was 'natural'.

Also he plans to breed them when he has moved away to continue to line, but once they get too inbred, he will let them go, and because they will be feral and hence able to fend for themselves in the wild, they will be fine.

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Blogger chocolatelust said...

just wondering. how can a sterilised cat breed?

20/6/07 9:59 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Only one cat is sterilised. The rest are not.

21/6/07 12:52 AM  
Blogger EJ. said...

Wait till the population exploded and then he will realise his mistake of overlooking sterilisation. Travelling in a van with cats around the world? Sounds cool but like a circus too.

21/6/07 5:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


as he said.. he is going to release the babies into the "wild"

Just as we have enough problems with HDB, AVA, TC and Complains, we get cases like MR Bishan, Ms 200 cats lady and now this!???

Really pity Dawn....


21/6/07 10:11 AM  
Anonymous apple said...

This guy is just a sexual fiend,he only wants to satisfied his own sexual needs.That's why he doesn't want to sterilised his cats,tell him his cats are in-breeding with their own family,which is unnatural.He doesn't like cats at all,he is a sick,sick man.Maybe can ask e police to order him to released his cats?Since he doesn't want to sterilised them....

21/6/07 1:24 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

I'm not sure he's a sexual predator - just that he has very unusual concepts of 'natural'. He is very insistent he keeps them apart so that they do not inbreed too much. In fact, the only female sterilised was because he felt she would have inbred kittens.

21/6/07 1:35 PM  
Anonymous anti-stupidity said...

Maybe welfare groups should push AVA to include compulsory sterilisation of cats as a drastic measure against cats reproduction.

If after the interview the man indicates kittens would be ' dump' on state land regardless of where apart from his own properry, he should be disallowed to keep unsterilised cats.

People with severe depression tend to do nothing for long periods of time. They can't function and you have to do the stuffs for them like bringing the cats for free sterilisation.

If left alone, they become good in giving excuses that way they can stay 'comfortably ' dysfunctional.

21/6/07 3:29 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

I don't think he is depressed - plus he has a lot of plans for the future which he shared with us, including migrating.

I think if cheap or preferably free sterilisation is allowed, that would be even better. Forcing people to sterilise may not work if they cannot afford it.

21/6/07 7:19 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

belle - very true.

21/6/07 7:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(hey apple, i see where you are coming from and agree with you.) please, this guy is just another typical irritating idiot with very lofty ideas. i think he's crap. (reminds me of those stupid guys who likes to say this say that, philosophizing nonsence but thinking that they are being "different". oh. please! i would have puke to death and smack my daughter silly if she ever goes out with such creeps. Actually such men are pretty common, many out there. some of them keep lots of birds in cages too! others rear fishes. They think what they think are deep thoughts. Errks! )I have come across many human males who are somewhat not into neutering male animals such as dogs and cats. They just rather not. My closer male friends have shared that being guys, they think it's very very cruel to neuter a dog/cat because having sex/mating is the most important thing and the sole determinant of being a MAN. But what i think about this stupid creep does not matter. What is important and matters urgently is to help those confined cats inside his concentration-camp-van. It's not yet about sterilising, it's about cruelly confining live animals. It really does not matter yet, whether the inflicting person is an old lady, a less privileged person, a rich tai tai, a burnt out lawyer, intellectually compromised person, a kind soul who's been retrenched by a jerk of a boss or a creep who currently lives in a red van with great plans of migration. Can SPCA/AVA/Police (this division i doubt)do anything to help these cats?

22/6/07 11:08 AM  
Anonymous apple said...

i'm glad someone does agreed with me.That creep should be force to release his poor cats.And i don't like to see those men gathering every morning dwnstairs to let all their birds sing.Birds are born with wings,they are born to fly,not locked up inside cages.These ppl should be locked up inside a rm for one whole day,without tv,radio or any other things to do,just looking at e 4 walls.Then they will know how their poor birds feel.Waste of time reasoning with em,just put them in e same condition as their pets.

22/6/07 1:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello people. I am sorry to barge in on this conversation, but if you think that being confined is the most horrible thing that could ever happen to you, are you not also projecting your own fears on a animal that is caged?

I quote a previous poster:
"My closer male friends have shared that being guys, they think it's very very cruel to neuter a dog/cat because having sex/mating is the most important thing and the sole determinant of being a MAN."

Different people, different insecurities.

I am not condoning this man's behaviour. I am just saying that we should be more patient with him and less judgemental.

24/6/07 12:43 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Anonymous, it's not only that the cats are caged that worries me. It's the fact that he does not intend to get them sterilised, in which case, the number of cats in the van is going to increase. Realistically speaking, this man isn't able to afford it, and with more cats in the van (which is closed up most of the time), chances of them spreading diseases in there is much higher. They may not be in a bad way right now, but if they breed and stay in there longer, chances are they will be.

24/6/07 3:02 PM  

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