Friday, August 17, 2007

Where did the other cats go?

This afternoon, several things were happening at the same time, including some events relating to this case. The trapper called and said that she was trying to arrange with the woman who hired her to have her meet with everyone involved so that the cats could be returned. She said that she wanted it sorted out today. I told her that would be everyone's fervent aim as the main thing was to just have the cats reunited with their caregivers. She said she wanted that as well. I told her I was sure that was what everyone wanted - what was in the best interests of the cats. However she called back a few minutes later to say it was no good - the woman did not wish to meet, but she said that it was fine to go and pick up the cats at the cattery.

At the same time, I spoke with the people at the vet as this woman advised. I was told that the woman had agreed that the caregivers were welcome to check the cattery for their cats. One of the caregivers also spoke with the same woman, and was told the same thing.

However it was uncertain what time the caregivers could go down. The caregiver asked if I could go along, though I did point out I would be unable to recognise the cats. I was told that the tenant had been there since early in the morning and wanted to go home and so we needed to get down as quickly as possible. So we rushed off again (while in another town council, there were other problems of the more mundane - but equally serious - kind cropping up and I was trying to help with that as well).

I met the caregiver there while another caregiver rushed down from her workplace. This time around, the same woman allowed us in but she was much friendlier. She told me that she had not been aware of what was happening - she was just helping a friend out as her friend's cattery was undergoing renovation. The cats were in the back in the 'quarantine' sections which we weren't allowed into the last time. This time, the caregiver was allowed in and she went in and found two of the cats. One of the cats looked so happy to see the caregiver and rubbed against her over and over again. She also recognised some other sterilised cats, but those feeders were not responsible and had been leaving food all over. They had also not asked about the cats since they went missing, so she discussed it with the woman who let us in and they agreed to leave those cats there.

The shelter looked clean as it did the last time and people were washing it out. The cats were also safe and dry despite the heavy rain. Some of the cats were however down with flu as the woman told us, and it is inevitable that flu and other diseases can and do spread in shelters, no matter how well run, just due to the proximity of the cats to each other in an enclosed place.

The other caregiver rushed down but was unable to find her cats. She was so upset she looked like she was about to cry as she was so hopeful they might be there. The woman who let us in looked quite moved as well and told her not to give up her search, but the caregiver said she didn't know where to start. We asked to see the other cattery which was being renovated but were told it wasn't rented by the woman who let us in. However the caregiver stood outside and stared so hopefully in that the owner of the entire cattery came over, spoke with us, and told her it was okay to have a look, which was very kind of him. It helped to set her mind at rest that the cats might be there.

I gave the second caregiver a ride out. She was crushed - she had really thought she might find her cats tonight. She mentioned that if her cats were in a better place, and the person wanted to keep them, she would be fine with it - what was killing her was having no news whatsoever about the cats. She said she had no idea where they could be or what had befallen them. She asked where the other cats could possibly have gone and I said I just didn't know.



Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't get it, another lot from second feeder cannot be found? But surely the lady was the one allocating the cats at the shelter etc.

Great cooperation allows cats to be united with caregiver.

17/8/07 11:36 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Anonymous I don't get it either :) Yes half of the first caregiver's lot couldn't be found - and the second caregiver's cats weren't found at all.

17/8/07 11:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So where did the rest go? Unless you suffer from severe memory lost, every cat should be accounted. What has she got to say?

18/8/07 1:06 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Anonymous - when she spoke with the caregiver, she apparently said she couldn't recognise them. She didn't say anything to me except to speak with the vet clinic. I tried to get hold of the person at the vet clinic again today but was unable to.

18/8/07 10:56 AM  
Anonymous bmx said...

I always feed in the dark or dim lighting at night.
I was surprised that for a few of the regular cats i have been feeding, i could not even recognize them when i saw them in the day. Especially their colours are different under bright day light and the street lights at night.

18/8/07 11:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what is the objective of these ppl who nab cats from the streets? to provide a safe haven for the cats for the rest of their lives?

while providing a refuge for stray cats is smthg i am sure all of us wish we cld do, wldn't they run out of space soon?

18/8/07 11:29 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Anonymous - yes I think that's what they're trying to do. And you're absolutely right, they could run out of space. They could also potentially run out of money because no matter how well to do you are, if you keep taking in cats, medical fees, costs, will keep going up. Plus with all the cats in one place, chances of a disease outbreak happening are good, especially if your quarantine regiment isn't efective.

In addition, it does nothing for the overall community cat population. These cats being removed, especially as they are sterilised, will destabilise the population and new, unsterilised cats will move in. Unless people intend to remove every single cat from the street, which clearly isn't possible, then this isn't solving the problem at all as the new unsterilised cats move in, breed and produce even more cats. Either that, or the caregivers spend MORE money again on sterilising this new group, even while the existing group are still being paid for every month in a shelter. If the money had been spent on sterilisation, far more cats could have been helped more effectively.

18/8/07 12:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not to mention that it is more likely cats come into contact with FIV or Felv cats as they are put together in an enclosed space. Cats are stressed due to close proximity and auto-immune problems may surface. Any vet visiting? Shelters may appear to be "safe"-like sitting in an "open" prison with other inmates. Living in the community may not be ideal, like living in the wild wild west.
I tell my home cats they better show more appreciation ; p

18/8/07 12:46 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

That's right - and testing isn't 100% as there can be false negatives and positives. Also testing is expensive.

18/8/07 4:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the cats are all placed in the same enclosure, caregivers will have less difficulty recognising them.

What has it got to do with the vet clinic guy? Lady should just explain why cats were taken from place X, why didn't ask permission, and show where all the cats are right now.sed right now.

18/8/07 5:47 PM  
Anonymous huh said...

cannot control cats people, they are like cats.

18/8/07 6:05 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

The cats were supposed to be in the same enclosure - but only some of them were there. They were kept separate from the other cats.

I don't know what it has to do with the clinic either - nor does the person at the clinic. It would definitely be preferable if the woman could just meet with the caregivers directly.

18/8/07 6:19 PM  
Anonymous belle said...

the part abt the cat looking so happy to see its caregiver - is so touching ! i feel happy for both the cat & its person ... it must have been really scared.

i sincerely hope they can find the rest of the cats soon ... my head is spinning as i read the articles abt this matter - there must be some huge miscommunication between the different groups of people ! and the woman who hired the trapper is so KAYPOH ... and the rumour-spreader deserves a tight slap ... causing unnecessary problems for all concerned :-(

18/8/07 6:27 PM  
Anonymous belle said...

by rumour-spreader, i mean the person who first spread the rumour abt zero stray policy that made the kaypoh woman go & trap the cats & put them in the cattery/shelter.

18/8/07 6:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the woman is indeed KAYPO. the trapper is equally evil. unless the trapper is from a pest control company, she shouldn't assist in inflicting pain and sadness on the caregivers by trapping well managed cats.

18/8/07 9:16 PM  
Blogger Dawn said...

belle - I'm not sure if it was a zero stray policy that worried them, but just that the area was 'bad'.

19/8/07 12:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They relocated the cats to shelter out of concern for the cats being exposed to culling or perceived ideas of zero stray policy.

How many of us would go grab a colony and fund all the shelter and other expenses. Their main problem is lack of consultation with caregivers.

I can bet in the even you need boarding spaces for urgent cats they will open their doors than turn the cats away.

19/8/07 1:01 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Anonymous I have no doubt they probably did mean well - but you're right, no consultation is the problem. For example, there ARE tons of cases right now I bet who would urgently need the cats off the street - so why not just ask? If they let it be known they had space, they would have lots of grateful people asking for help - instead of upset caregivers wondering where their cats disappeared to.

19/8/07 3:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sad. sad. sad. grrrrr, why cannot people just leave the cats alone????!!!!!!

19/8/07 10:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have no problem with their intention of helping stray cats. but what i don't understand is why they go abt picking up managed cats. granted they thought the area was "bad", but when they learnt abt the caregivers, one wld have thought they wld be happy to reunite them with their cats.

in a situation where there are limited resources (which all of us face no matter how well to do we are) and unlimited needs, i wld have thought these ppl wld be more selective abt the cats they rescue.

from a purely pragmatic point of view, why allow cats with obviously committed caregivers to take up space which wld benefit some really needy cats? and there are so many needy cats in s'pore. the CWS adoption board, for example, is full of posts about families who say they will release their pets into the streets if no one adopts them. perhaps CWS cld to work with these ppl to take in those poor soon-to-be-abandoned pets.

also, it wldn't hurt if they were to put the friendlier cats up for adoption. this arrangement of having inlets but no outlets does not seem to be a viable one in the long run.

19/8/07 11:15 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Anonymous - if we knew for certain they didn't mind, we'd be happy to refer people who needed rehoming of cats to them. As you said, there are many desperate cases on the adoption board - and I'm sure there are even more elsewhere.

19/8/07 11:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I guess correctly, shelter woman does not believe in adoption.

At one time, one family gave up their 8 cats and had paid transport lady to sent them for PTS.
Unable to carry out the order, she turned to cattery woman who took them in. She also disallowed the family visitation rights.
Cattery woman also generous with her food servings, top guality food
for all the cats.

20/8/07 2:42 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

Anonymous - not sure if it's the same woman. It might be someone else.

20/8/07 9:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why can't the trapper reveal who is the transport guy that was engaged to transport the cats after trapping. The transport person will sure to know where he has sent the cats to. I believe the trapper will also know where the cats were sent but do not want to tell the truth. They thought that to return a few cats back to the caregivers will able to let the matter rest. Obviously, someone is trying to hide the truth.

20/8/07 9:39 AM  
Blogger Dawn said...

The trapper says she did not want to get the transport person into trouble. The trapper claims they were sent into this cattery. However if they were moved after, she does not know.

20/8/07 9:45 AM  
Anonymous huh said...

Strange mentality. For this to be a genuine rescue evacuation, all involved should be clearly defined in their roles without fear of being identified.

So the transport guy is more than providing transport... trapper who holds vital info should step forward and provide the anwers, keeping quiet is contributing to the problems, cats need to go home to their caregivers.

20/8/07 12:08 PM  

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